Reducing people to objects is generally bad. Only fans also promote sexualization of girls/teens. It’s well established in social research that the patriarchy uses sexual objectification of women to help keep them reduced as second class citizens. It helps promote the idea that “women want to be sexually assaulted and they like sexual harassment”. Taking blame from the predators. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectification en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-objectification Additionally. Turning intimacy and affection into something to be sold or bought devalues this aspect of human connection. thorn.org/…/commodified-online-sexual-interaction… Consent and Commodification: Objections to the Market for Sex Work pressbooks.lib.vt.edu/pper/chapter/article-4/

Sex work is not something people do because its a choice but out of need for finances. This may be true in many or most cases but I’ve met sex workers who like their job and want to keep doing it because it’s an easy and fun way to make a lot of money.

Easy money. So finances? Self objectification is also a problem in our society. Do you remember how women athletes used to say all the time how it was empowering to be naked in the swimsuit sports illustrated magazine. ? Our culture has convinced women that their greatest value is being sexy and getting sexual attention and unfortunately a lot of younger women believe this. They don't realize that this mindset and acceptance of these values promote the very system that harms them and others.

Easier money than doing other work. They could make ends meet other ways, I’m sure, but this is easier and more fun. Like, I could make ends meet as a roofer but making more money for sitting in front of a computer is easier and more fun. As for the other stuff, all I can say is that they weren’t all women.

I think you are really downplaying the risks here. I have friends who have done sex work. It’s incredibly dangerous. Men may hurt you. They may stalk you. They may give you a std. Maybe the woman agrees to a specific service and the man forces her to do something she said she didn’t want to go. It’s not like they can go to the police. Police will just say “well that’s what you get for being a whore”.

think you are really downplaying the risks here. I have friends who have done sex work. As do I. Friends and family both. And I have never heard a sex worker say any of the things you ascribe to them. Do sex work in your 20s instead of developing a career. Then when you are too old and 40 with no job prospects and no skills, and no one wants you. What then ? I’m wondering if you actually know that many people in the industry. Bcs I’m middle aged, everyone I know who does SW is close to my age, so they’re all 35+, mostly over 40, and doing fine. But if that weren’t the case, the same question can be asked of anyone doing manual labor, once your body breaks down (which happens a lot earlier for manual laborers), what do you do? To borrow an old quote: If you think that the prostitute sells her body and the coal miner does not, your view of labor is clouded by your puritanical view of sex.

Okay so you don’t actually know anyone who has aged out of sex work . My “puritanical views”. Is this a joke? My stance is I’m against human trafficking. I’m against pimps. I’m against workers being hurt by johns. I’m against the promotion of misogyny and objectification of people. I’m against capitalism turning human connection into just another thing to exploit for money. I’m especially against the harms it perpetuates in society. And I’m against people resorting to the high risk sex work because it’s the easy choice when there should be better options for people. People have more value that tits and ass. Or a hole. They actually do. You can pretend the risks and statistics I gave you aren’t real. It doesn’t make them false. Also I certainly don’t appreciate your strawman what-aboutism argument. We aren’t talking about people who do labor jobs. We are talking about sex workers. Jesus. How can you possibly believe that sex work is good for women. I mean. Seriously. How fucked up is it to believe that ? Why would you support the systems that harm women the most. Why. ? Do you hate women ? I can’t see why anyone would think sex work is a great career opportunity for women except people like Epstein and trump. Cause those are the types of people that benefit from women being exploited this way.

Okay so you don’t actually know anyone who has aged out of sex work . And obviously neither do you. But I do know men women and enbys still doing and enjoying sex work at the age you specifically picked as the age where they “can’t” do it anymore and their life will be over for having done sex work. Which was my point, and one you’ve utterly failed to engage with since you now know you were very wrong. My “puritanical views”. Is this a joke? No, it’s a quote, and I apparently misremembered it, since the original word was “moralistic” not “puritanical”. To be clear: sex work is as bad as any other form of labor coerced by capitalism, it just isn’t worse than any other form of labor coerced by capitalism. Only the kind of magical thinking that says sex is some special sphere of human activity that should be considered sacred would ever tell you otherwise. And the pimps, Epsteins, and human traffickers of the world benefit directly from moralistic views of sex. If we treated sex exactly the same as any other full contact sport, there would be far less danger for sex workers who report bad behavior from clients or employers, and there would be far less demand from creeps who want to buy children, because there is a definite correlation (even if no proven causal link) between heavily moralistic views of sex and CSA. This is why religious leaders so often wind up being child rapists. Finally if you think there’s anything strawman or whataboutism in comparing sex work to any other form of work under capitalism, then you do not understand the point I’m making at all, which is that there is no moral difference between the sex worker and the coal miner in a capitalist society. In a socialist society there’s a discussion to be had about whether sex work is socially necessary labor, but there is no question it is labor.