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@davel__dup_7797@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
70 years is oddly convenient choice.
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@gustofwind@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Ok how about this Have they been invaded since their permanent borders were established in 1953?
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@davel__dup_7797@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Again, very convenient: only an invasions are to be considered. Thank you for making my point.
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@gustofwind@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Ah sorry I thought we were talking about invasions since the image is about Ukraine receiving support because they were invaded
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@hamid@crazypeople.online on crazypeople.online Open parent
Weird that all the people in the places they are fighting are Russian speaking Ukrainians that mostly moved into Russia after being violently repressed by the Ukrainian government and voted to join Russia and were denied
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@Ciderpunk@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Hey, quick question, were those votes held before or after Russian troops were occupying those regions?
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@hamid@crazypeople.online on crazypeople.online Open parent
They were held in 2014
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@Ciderpunk@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
And might those ethnic Russians have been there due to a sustained campaign on the part of the Soviets to depopulate the region of ethnic Ukrainians and replace them with ethnic Russians as part of a plan to increase loyalty of the region to the central Soviet authority? You can justify almost anything if you reach back in history far enough. It’s our responsibility to break the cycle and it’s pretty easy to stop believing the framing of a dictator who only wants to justify his territorial ambitions (and who has made noticeable overtures toward the recreation of the Russian Empire).
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davel__dup_7797 in !memes
@davel__dup_7797@lemmy.ml · Dec 04
And might those ethnic Russians have been there due to a sustained campaign on the part of the Soviets to depopulate the region of ethnic Ukrainians and replace them with ethnic Russians as part of a plan to increase loyalty of the region to the central Soviet authority? No, that narrative came from fascist Banderite propaganda. Relatedly, Nazis created the Ukrainian genocide myth in the 1930s, and Banderites coined the term “Holomodor” in the 1980s to evoke associations with the Holocaust.
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