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@jrcruciani@lemmy.wtf on lemmy.wtf Open parent
ProtonMail provides information used to identify email owner...
Awesome…
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@Doomsider@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Oh boy, their man fawning over Trump is aging like fine milk. Proton the company that prides itself following the law to protect privacy when it is literally the law of the country they are in. It is like a cabby advertising that they have license and insurance.
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@redpulpo@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Protón don’t promise anonymity If you use your credit card to pay protón services. Maybe he has to learn more about OPSEC. 🤷‍♂️
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@Doomsider@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Please, using crypto alone isn’t going to do shit. The barrier to entry for truly anonymous usage is not something most people will ever accomplish. Privacy is effectively dead but yet we have a company trying to advertise about it. Proton has always been marketing garbage meant to attract people’s money. Garbage company with no ethics other than taking care of their pocket book.
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@redpulpo@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
You’re mixing up privacy and anonymity. Encryption alone doesn’t make you anonymous — that’s true — but Proton never claimed it would. Their promise is that email content is end-to-end encrypted, which is why they can’t hand over the messages themselves. In the case reported by 404 Media, the identification came from payment information, not from breaking encryption. If you pay with a credit card, your identity is already tied to the account. That would happen with any service under a legal jurisdiction. The real takeaway isn’t that Proton is “garbage”, it’s that most people misunderstand what encryption actually protects.
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@Doomsider@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
I was talking about both. The fact that Proton exists as a middle man to expose a customer is the reality of the situation. Do you think they score points for blaming their customer!? I really have a hard time dealing with shills for corporations. The real takeaway is the way Proton advertised itself was a fucking lie and now they have to spend all their time back peddling while shills like you do PR for them. Garbage company with to leaders who say stupid shit about politics they don’t understand and make idle threats to their own government saying they are going to move like the little fascist bitches they are.
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@redpulpo@lemmy.world · Mar 07
Proton didn’t “expose” the user by breaking encryption. According to the reporting, the identification came from payment information, which any company legally has to keep and can be compelled to provide under a court order. The email content remained encrypted. This isn’t unique to Proton — any service operating under a legal jurisdiction is a potential middleman if it stores identifiable data. That’s exactly why anonymity requires Tor, anonymous payments, and strict OPSEC, not just encrypted email. So the real lesson isn’t that encryption is fake; it’s that privacy tools don’t automatically give anonymity, and many people expect them to.
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