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Two Things Can Be True At Once!
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@OwOarchist__dup_68352@pawb.social on pawb.social Open parent
But also … just because something is used by the US as propaganda doesn’t necessarily mean it’s untrue.
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@orc_princess@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Look into literally every war they supported, it’s always false pretenses. They instigated Kuwait to get in trouble with Iraq, then told Iraq they wouldn’t oppose them invading Kuwait, then after Iraq invaded the US media apparatus lied everywhere that Iraqis disconnected hundreds of babies from incubators, killing them. Still with Iraq, they told the world that Saddam Hussein had WMDs, that they had to be stopped for the safety of all USAmericans. Even though the weapons inspectors said it was patently false. The US invaded, many European countries supported them. After a very painful invasion where it’s estimated between hundreds of thousands to a million Iraqis were murdered by the US and their allies (and many, many more when you count those who died from other factors caused by the invasion, such as lack of infrastructure, hospitals, food, etc), after all of this did they find WMDs? Take a guess. The US told us that Gaddafi was using mass rape against his enemies, and people believed it until after they bombed Libyans to rubble. Turns out, they lied. Amnesty International curiously enough lied as well, they echoed the claims about Kuwait babies killed by the Iraqi army and the mass rape by Gaddafi’s troops until after the US punished them severely. Then they went back on their word, because as it turns out they were lying. So if even organizations that occasionally do decent work can’t be trusted not to amplify imperialism, how can we trust those that are even worse? Can you trust the same newspapers that have told us for years that no genocide is happening in Gaza? That we should condemn Hamas? That Israel has the most moral army? We saw with our own eyes what they did and still do to children in Gaza. And to this day BBC, NYT and others still frame Israel as victims of aggression, and the real victims as untrustworthy terrorists. We can’t trust a word about anything involving politics because even now they lie through framing, through omission.
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@OwOarchist__dup_68352@pawb.social on pawb.social Open parent
True true, and their ‘justifications’ for war are entirely bogus. But I just caution against over-correcting. Just because someone is an enemy of the US doesn’t mean they’re perfect. Or even good.
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@AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Yes it does. Relative to the US they are good. The primary contradiction in the world right now is US imperialism. If you are talking about an enemy of the US in the context of anything the US is doing, they are the good guys. Anything less is apologism.
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@OwOarchist__dup_68352@pawb.social on pawb.social Open parent
Nah. Being attacked by evil doesn’t make you good. You’ve got to stop with this black-and-white thinking.
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@zqps@sh.itjust.works on sh.itjust.works Open parent
Yeah there isn’t a nation-state on earth that is a friend to the working class.
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
There are several socialist countries. What do you mean by “friend to the working classes” if not socialism?
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@OwOarchist__dup_68352@pawb.social · Mar 08
State capitalism is not socialism, and it is not a friend of the working class.
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