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@bearboiblake__dup_9904@pawb.social on pawb.social Open parent

You can check my other comments where I advocate for the same stuff that you do! My point is that voting for the Democrats does not genuinely provide long-term harm reduction, it’s a fallacy. I think there are a few options for resolving that problem, and I encourage everyone to take whatever options they feel best.

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@Fedizen@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent

The democrats are the wet noodles. If you let the psychopaths work none of this stuff works because they’ll happilly kill everyone on earth.

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@bearboiblake__dup_9904@pawb.social on pawb.social Open parent

The democrats are also psychopaths, dude, I don’t know what to tell you. Biden & Harris supported genocide, Nancy Pelosi stood and applauded Trump at the state of the union ranting about how we need to invade Iran. They’re not just wet noodles, they are actively fucking evil as fuck, you just aren’t seeing it because Trump is so obviously evil and the Democrats are subtle. We don’t need to settle for these cryptofascists. We can effect REAL CHANGE if we just stop all the defeatism.

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@Fedizen@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent

I viewed it the same way, but largely the moment has passed for this rationale to work. When the democrats and republicans were similar enough for it to work, 3rd parties could have done something. But like nowhere in the world has anyone voted themselves out of fascism. 3rd parties are what you do before fascism arrives in full. I vote for dems now because there’s a chance Trump will attempt to forcibly override the election and if he does it makes our task of dismantling the fascist projects and their media much easier.

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@bearboiblake__dup_9904@pawb.social on pawb.social Open parent

The Democrats would not dismantle fascism, they’d embrace it and stick a progressive coat of paint on it. Take off the rose-tinted glasses.

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I don’t think you’re reading what was written. Voting won’t fix fascism. Period. 3rd parties won’t fix anything at this point, if anything it would align both parties against it. Democrats would hapilly align with republicans to crush a third party right now The hope here is to create a conflict between trump and his media and democrats and their media with the best case scenario being heavy backlash to democrat politicians from trump aligned politicians.

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@bearboiblake__dup_9904@pawb.social on pawb.social Open parent

I agree with the first paragraph, but I disagree with the second, the media is owned and controlled by the ruling class, they’re not an ally or a weapon that we can really use, except in extremely niche cases. What we really need to do is organize the working class, and the best weapon that the ruling class have against class-conscious organizing is elections. Instead of spending our energy and efforts on building our own movements, the Democrats absorb all of that, parasitically siphoning all of the blood, sweat, and tears of (mainly young) voters to run their campaigns for them, which instead could have gone into a worker-led movement actually capable of shaking the foundations of power. That’s why I care so much about trying to get people to come to terms with the reality, that the democrats are not going to save us, elections aren’t going to save us, we need to find an alternative path towards achieving our goals. I encourage people to vote for their preferred candidates, but not to expect them to actually improve anything.

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Its very easy. Republican media currently portrays democrats as satanic degenenerates who need to die. Republicans control maybe 70% of the media by value. Wealthy people would save money on bribes if they only had to bribe one party. So there’s a lot of demand currently by the wealthy to consolidate power into a one party state. Its not cost effective to bribe two parties. This is an exploitable contradiction.

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@bearboiblake__dup_9904@pawb.social · Mar 03

You’re still not seeing the wood for the trees - it’s not about republican vs. democrat, I thought you already understood that electoralism isn’t going to solve the problem we have. It’s about working class vs. ruling class. The ruling class own and control 99.9% of the media.

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