Ukraine broke the treaties, and the Banderites couped the state and started ethnically cleansing Russians. It’s ethnic cleansing, full stop.

Again, put-it-in admitted himself russia was supporting separatists militias in a military fashion well before 2014, when the Crimean war broke out. How can you so blindly keep on repeating that was Ukraine to break the treaties is beyond my understanding

Which treaty are you specifically referring to, here? Ukraine had been a hotbed of far-right Banderite influence before they committed the Maidan massacre and couped the state in 2014, and that wasn’t because of Russian influence.

I’m specifically referring to the Budapest Memorandum of December the 5th 1994 where it was established that Russia would have kept the Ukrainian state indipendent and would not have tried to annex it again in the future against the returning of its atomic warheads. I see no russian warheads in Ukraine today but I have seen the little green men taking over Crimea before if 2014. Who broke the treaty then???

The Budapest Memorandum was explicitly stated to not be legally binding. It wasn’t guarantees, but assurances, and the US broke these assurances first: “Although the Memorandum is not legally binding, we take these political commitments seriously and do not believe any U.S. sanctions, whether imposed because of human rights or non-proliferation concerns, are inconsistent with our commitments to Belarus under the Memorandum or undermine them. Rather, sanctions are aimed at securing the human rights of Belarusians and combating the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and other illicit activities, not at gaining any advantage for the United States”. This was the reasoning given for sanctioning Belarus in 2013. The west backing the far-right Banderite coup in 2014 was an even greater violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. Ukraine also did not give up “its” nukes, but returned the soviet nukes Moscow had stationed there prior to the dissolution of the USSR that were a part of the multi-national nature of the soviet union. The Budapest Memorandum was neither binding nor respected by the west to begin with.

The worst kind of cope, as soon as you are presented with the truth of the matter, that Russia is a rogue state breaking international treaties by moving an unnecessary war to a neighbouring country, you immediately cope out by comparing fiscal sanctions placed by a completely different state not even on Russia directly to an all out war and, at the same time, you use the same reasoning presented by the USA you seem to reject to justify the atrocities of the Russian regime. Moreover, it was the USA who “broke the treaty” (I’d love to see exactly which points of the treaty were broken by imposing sanctions, as the treaty was to avoid armed conflicts and does not mention sanctions as far as I am aware), by imposing sanctions over Belarus, why isn’t Put-it-in attacking the real villain of this story (in your eyes) but an innocent country and people instead? Your kremlin-loving justifications never make any sense as long as one can think about them for more than a second; it’s astounding how wrong can a human being be on such an easy issue to understand

Ukraine’s government isn’t innocent, they have been ethnically cleansing ethnic Russians post-Euromaidan coup. Ukraine is not all Nazi, the Nazis in Ukraine are largely in the government of Ukraine and in fascist groups now folded into the government and millitary officially. I’m not wrong here at all, you still haven’t explained how Nazis committing ethnic cleansing is okay.

And you still haven’t provided neutral evidences of what you call “ethnic cleansing” while I’ve provided you a report showing a steady decrease in violent deaths between 2014 and 2022 produced by the UN while Russia was still sitting in the board and confirmed the numbers cited. Also, how is Ukraine still capable of fighting against Russia if the majority of its people are not nazi and should be against their government according to you? Wouldn’t they be fighting alongside the russian should they want to be freed from their “tyrannical” government? And yet they are still fighting almost 4 years into this war. Unbelievable how much they love tyranny in that country