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@silence7@slrpnk.net on slrpnk.net Open parent
How many people does heat actually kill? It depends on how you count it
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@52fighters@sopuli.xyz on sopuli.xyz Open parent
Heat deaths due to cold should be treated differently than those due to heat. Why? Most heat deaths are just accelerating what’s likely to happen over the next few weeks or months. Already weak or sick people are not able to tolerate the added work of dealing with heat. They were going to die and the heat accelerated what was already happening. Deaths due to cold exposure typically happen to people otherwise healthy and unlikely to die in the near future.
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@Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca on lemmy.ca Open parent
not doubting it, but do you have anything to backup the first point about heat only killing those who were days/months from death already?
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@GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 5d
You won’t get an answer because he’s wrong. This link shows some stats about heat stroke in America. People under 5 years old die at a rate of 190 per 100k, the it craters to 27 per 100k from 5 to 14 and keeps climbing from there, peaking for those between 55 and 64. Note that deaths between 35 and 44 are more than half of the cohort most likely to die of heat stroke. Everything about that chart says that unmanaged heat is very dangerous and as we get older it gets harder to handle, at least once we are over the age of 5 and our heat regulation mechanisms have matured. This is the same excuse anti-vaxxers use for why it’s okay that children and old people die from the flu. “The flu isnt dangerous, it only kills the ones who are too weak to survive.” Of course, kids who don’t die of the flu live just fine for decades, whether they avoid doing so by luck or vaccination, and while seniors won’t necessarily live for decades if they avoid the flu or heat stroke, they can still live for years. Here’s an abstract talking about morbidity for people over 80. 23.9% mortality for those without the flu vaccine vs 20.9% for those with, for total morbidities. There is a significant reduction in all morbidities if these really old people just don’t get the flu.
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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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