@rsalz@ioc.exchange Not that I specially want to, but yes I assume that after a couple more months of discussion the naked ML-KEM draft will be published. This is not certain, but that's the most likely outcome. This is not like the visibility draft, for which there was a plurality of "strongly oppose". This kind of debate typically ends with a compromise, such as OK to publish if the opponents get a strongly enough wording in the security section, or maybe in the intro.