@djb @pedromj @paulehoffman @rsalz Easier to sell is pretty much the same as "Endorsement by the IETF". At that point, the technical arguments boil down to the risk that ML-KEM is found broken. Dan, you argue that that risk is very high because the promotion efforts are orchestrated by the government. But if people were to discard your argument, we are left with a generic discussion of risk. That discussion could result in having a recommendation=Y for hybrids versus no for naked. Maybe.