Still not sure how "barely any new phones" differentiates Sailfish and KaiOS. 10k pre-orders is meaningless noise in the mobile market. It's a rounding error. Having no company, no employees, no hardware program, and no revenue is a hell of a lot better than having a company, employees, hardware program, and revenue, and no resulting advantage, and a previous failed company. I would love to live in a world where Sailfish is a major player. They have demonstrated for over a decade that they cannot achieve that goal. CC: @jolla@techhub.social