@smallcircles I not a fan of the "Ask not what you can do for the commons, but what the commons can do for you." I see more of a balance than in thinking like this, we should be doing both. There is also fundamental differences between community motivations and individual ones. I agree that the understanding and trust building is key, that is a long and involved process - including strategising and building shared understanding - and recognising that this never ends is also important.