Both did the job of explaining different functions of the dishwasher and demonstrating, as I mentioned, that expensive stuff did not “clean more better.” To that end he literally had things independantly tested (for the sake of highlighting powders being just as-good.) I’ll go on to point out that he made several comments about pods not using the pre wash. Again, as mentioned, even with him recommending a product… That does not make him a reviewer. If anything it was a mild advertisement … On a talking head show. To go back to what spawned this discussion - I wasn’t arguing with you. I simply thought you couldn’t understand what the show was… Or perhaps could not differentiate. The comments (initially) sought to teach. But, exasperatingly, here we are. At this point you are nitpicking and being pedantic to attempt to “win” an agurment not being had. If I wanted to approach this with the same energy I’d simply focus on it being obvious that anyone with a bit of sense would have noticed that the review seemed to lack… Price, length of stands, lumens… The list goes on. If it were a review it would contain an awful lot more numbers and an awful lot less personal opinion. Square peg: round hole. I genuinely hope we leave it there.