I have been plying with hcopy but its giving me backtalk over syntax. It’s whining about what it find s being directories. Yea, that why I passed -r to copy recursively. it just responds by saying thats a directory and not copying anything. I cant figure out what iocharset is wants for normal mount options so it can copy some things that way but not others. Also, again, this is HFS, not HFS+.