No, I’m staying that the Ukrainian state fought against a militia armed and trained by the russian to steal the Crimean peninsula. While there were treaties in place preventing the russian from acting exactly like this. If you wage a coup against a state you cannot cry genocide when you are fought against by the state you attacked first

Ukraine broke the treaties, and the Banderites couped the state and started ethnically cleansing Russians. It’s ethnic cleansing, full stop.

Again, put-it-in admitted himself russia was supporting separatists militias in a military fashion well before 2014, when the Crimean war broke out. How can you so blindly keep on repeating that was Ukraine to break the treaties is beyond my understanding

Which treaty are you specifically referring to, here? Ukraine had been a hotbed of far-right Banderite influence before they committed the Maidan massacre and couped the state in 2014, and that wasn’t because of Russian influence.

I’m specifically referring to the Budapest Memorandum of December the 5th 1994 where it was established that Russia would have kept the Ukrainian state indipendent and would not have tried to annex it again in the future against the returning of its atomic warheads. I see no russian warheads in Ukraine today but I have seen the little green men taking over Crimea before if 2014. Who broke the treaty then???

The Budapest Memorandum was explicitly stated to not be legally binding. It wasn’t guarantees, but assurances, and the US broke these assurances first: “Although the Memorandum is not legally binding, we take these political commitments seriously and do not believe any U.S. sanctions, whether imposed because of human rights or non-proliferation concerns, are inconsistent with our commitments to Belarus under the Memorandum or undermine them. Rather, sanctions are aimed at securing the human rights of Belarusians and combating the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and other illicit activities, not at gaining any advantage for the United States”. This was the reasoning given for sanctioning Belarus in 2013. The west backing the far-right Banderite coup in 2014 was an even greater violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. Ukraine also did not give up “its” nukes, but returned the soviet nukes Moscow had stationed there prior to the dissolution of the USSR that were a part of the multi-national nature of the soviet union. The Budapest Memorandum was neither binding nor respected by the west to begin with.

Also, if you want to have a conversation please try to restrain yourself from banning your interlocutor. I know it’s hard to justify an homicidal regime but at least don’t make me wait 4 days to show you how wrong and stupid you are. If it’s not me doing so someone else or life itself will do so in due time, you cannot run away from truth your whole life (⁠◠⁠‿⁠◕⁠)

I can’t ban anyone, lol, and I’m absolutely correct here. The communists, as usual, are correct.