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@CosmoNova@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
I‘m sick and tired of rich schmucks selling their lack of empathy as being neurodivergent. Nah man, you don‘t struggle with social cues. You simply don‘t care about others. That‘s a huge difference.
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@RobotToaster__dup_17302@mander.xyz on mander.xyz Open parent
Technically antisocial personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder are neurodivergent…
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@stoly@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Those are personality disorders, not forms of neurodivergence.
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@sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone on lemmy.blahaj.zone Open parent
Wtf is neurodivergence if not a diverfence from normal personality and thinking?
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@stoly@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
They are different things. Neurodivergent people process information differently but have all the correct parts to process. They may interact with the world in slightly different ways but do not have a personality DEFECT. People who are narcissists are missing a primary component: empathy for other humans. Their minds are fundamentally different than neurotypical and neurodivergent people.
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@sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone on lemmy.blahaj.zone Open parent
Did you just make this up? I’m going by the parts of the words: neuro meaning of the mind/brain and divergent meaning deviating from normal. I don’t see why “neurodivergent” wouldn’t include all of ADHD, autism, personality disorders, or mental illness as these are all brain differences.
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@stoly@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Neurodivergent includes all those categories except the disorders or illnesses. Here’s why: Things like psychopathy are caused by structural differences in the brain that make sufferers incapable of experiencing the same set of emotions as most people. Many negative behaviors are caused by lack of inhibition or empathy for others. People with autism and adhd process information differently and respond to the world differently as a result. In severe cases this can lead to an inability to engage but will generally result more in inappropriate engagement. Behavioral health conditions are a mix of psychological and neurological issues that require a wide variety of interventions. These are very different things.
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@sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone on lemmy.blahaj.zone Open parent
I decided to just look it up for myself. According to what I found, it isn’t a medical term and doesn’t have a medical definition, so means whatever people say it means. Which is I guess how language always works, it is just that it is a new word with roots that imply a broader meaning. The lists generally exclude personality disorders, but this doesn’t seem logical to me, although I am not a neurologist. I thought all brain differences arise or manifest as differences in the brain structure. uhhospitals.org/…/what-does-it-mean-to-be-neurodi… www.merriam-webster.com/…/neurodivergent
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stoly in !technology
@stoly@lemmy.world · Dec 17
I’m happy to hear that you looked up some of this for yourself. I figured that it was the definitions that were catching you more than the concepts. The DSM has some very odd references in it. For instance, “retarded” is a technical definition that exists and is a possible diagnosis even though society has long moved passed that concept. Mental health is weird.
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