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@halfdane@piefed.social on piefed.social Open parent
How would anyone place a 100% community driven distribution like Debian in such a cage? There's no monetary leverage, the community is truly international, so local laws don't apply .....
Please note that it's also one of the most prolific distributions, and the foundation p.e. for *buntu.


If you're living in an oppressive jurisdiction, your employer might obviously not allow you to use a truly free operating system, but that's hardly Linux's fault.

So if your favorite distribution is starting bullshit, just switch to the next one, there are literally thousands of them. That's why "Year of the Linux desktop" is confusing: it's "year of steamOs" or "year of *buntu", probably even "year of Debian", but most certainly never "year of the nixos desktop".

You have choice. Use it.
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@0x0@lemmy.zip on lemmy.zip Open parent
> How would anyone place a 100% community driven distribution like Debian in such a cage?

By getting the Debian deciding body to approve systemd a while back, for starters.
It's apparently very easy.
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@stsquad@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
I swear people have rose tinted glasses as to the state of the init system before the current generation of system management daemons.

If you really want to have Debian without systemd there is always Duvean but the Debian architects are free to choose the technologies that solve the very real system orchestration problems that exist.
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@0x0@lemmy.zip on lemmy.zip Open parent
If you really want to have Debian without systemd there is always Duvean



Devuan.

And Slackware, Gentoo, Artix and many others, yes.
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@Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works on sh.itjust.works Open parent
All used profusely by hobbysts and evangelists, the kind of people with a lot of spare time to write bullshit online, and never ran more than 5 machines for more than a year with evolving operational requirements.
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@0x0@lemmy.zip on lemmy.zip Open parent
Got data on that, have you?
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@Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works on sh.itjust.works Open parent
Usage and contributions data on debian and rhel, the vast majority uses systemd and does not complain about it.
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@0x0@lemmy.zip on lemmy.zip Open parent
So, by your own words, everyone who uses systemd and doesn't complain is

> All used profusely by hobbysts and evangelists, the kind of people with a lot of spare time to write bullshit online, and never ran more than 5 machines for more than a year with evolving operational requirements.

so, again, data on this or just keyboard warrioring?
Don't bother answering, we both know the answer.
Bye.
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@Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works · 13d
It actually helps the discussion if I can understand your point, you might want to add a verb in your first part, I say this as a non english speaker so bear with me.


My data points are public info, I pointed you to where to find them, rtfg.
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