#browsers

Ok, something other than politics for a minute. Browsers. I started daily driving Gnome Web around the time the new Mozilla CEO announced the AI-heavy focus for the company going forward. I'm not having any problems with WebKit as a rendering engine, but I think the interface leaves a bit to be desired for my uses. Here's my complaints. - The interface takes up too much screen real estate on small laptop screens - Bookmarks are currently not even working for me - I already miss the vertical tabs option from Firefox - I'd like an option to hide the tab bar completely - I'd also like an option to hide the header bar / url bar when not needed and just bring it up with a keycombo I'm toying around with starting a WebKitGTK+ based browser to address these things and possibly other issues. The idea is a very minimal interface, driven as much as possible by keyboard but using the same shortcuts that people are used to from conventional browsers like Firefox or Chromium. Configurable so that you can have the tab bar and address bar shown or hidden, so that new users don't freak out when they don't see a place to input where they want to go. Probably not too different from Gnome Web in it's default form, but more configurable. I'd like input and ideas here. I'm not even sure what language I want to use at this point, but I'm leaning towards something nice and easy for others to contribute to like Vala or Python, since GTK+ and WebKitGTK+ wind up doing most of the heavy lifting. GPL3 right from the start. FWIW I've gone partially down this road previously with a little toy browser using WebKit and Gtk_rs, so I have some idea what's involved. #browsers

Don't want AI in web browser? Alternatives having not (or will not) put in AI: https://librewolf.net https://floorp.app https://zen-browser.app https://vivaldi.com https://alohabrowser.com (Android) https://www.waterfox.com https://mullvad.net/en/browser https://dillo-browser.org https://www.falkon.org https://wolvic.org/en (XR) https://www.torproject.org (privacy) Upcoming new: https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird https://github.com/servo/servo https://gitlab.com/verso-browser #browsers #noAI #Linux #desktop #mobile

Congrats to the @kagihq@mastodon.social crew for releasing version 1.0 of Orion browser! 🎉 I've been paying for Orion+ for a few years and it's looking great ✨ and wonderful to have some alternative browser choices available. ✅ Privacy orientated ✅ Based on WebKit (not Chromium) ✅ Supports Firefox + Chrome Addons ✅ Mac OS / iOS 🧑‍🔬 Linux (in Alpha) ⏳ Windows (coming soon) https://blog.kagi.com/orion #webbrowsers #orion #webkit #linux #macOS #iOS #browsers #technology #software #firefox #chromium #kagi