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There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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Svante
@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@kattascha Ja, und vor allem erstmal die bereits seit Jahrzehnten funktionierende Alternative vernichten mußten.
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@ZachWeinersmith Are you familiar with the Nyx?
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@hanshuebner @plexus @flooper
Yes, »worse is better« morphed from /description/ to /prescription/. (There is a nice talk by Romeu Moura about this fallacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92Pq4-e0QyI)
In short: people erroneously move from »it's like this« to »it should be like this« or »it's inevitable like this«, and then enshrine it as a given fact, assumption or axiom instead of asking what can be done about it.
Yes, »worse is better« morphed from /description/ to /prescription/. (There is a nice talk by Romeu Moura about this fallacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92Pq4-e0QyI)
In short: people erroneously move from »it's like this« to »it should be like this« or »it's inevitable like this«, and then enshrine it as a given fact, assumption or axiom instead of asking what can be done about it.
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@hanshuebner @plexus
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- LLMs generate straw-fire software. It seems to burn at first, but it's not even hot enough to start a real fire.
- This seems cheap in a very short-term view, and it might satisfy short-term “wants”, but it's not sustainable.
- We need to start fixing somewhere. Two holes in a bucket are not a dilemma, but two tasks.
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- LLMs generate straw-fire software. It seems to burn at first, but it's not even hot enough to start a real fire.
- This seems cheap in a very short-term view, and it might satisfy short-term “wants”, but it's not sustainable.
- We need to start fixing somewhere. Two holes in a bucket are not a dilemma, but two tasks.
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
mastodon.xyz
@hanshuebner @plexus
You are stating a lot of assumptions:
- That the qualities that software exposes on the outside are largely independent of its inner workings.
- That LLMs make the creation process more efficient.
- That LLM-generated software is cheap and does what users “want.”
- That fixing one thing is not worthwhile while other things are not fixed.
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- Inner quality does matter a lot. E. g. JIRA receives a lot of complaints because it is not well designed internally.
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You are stating a lot of assumptions:
- That the qualities that software exposes on the outside are largely independent of its inner workings.
- That LLMs make the creation process more efficient.
- That LLM-generated software is cheap and does what users “want.”
- That fixing one thing is not worthwhile while other things are not fixed.
But:
- Inner quality does matter a lot. E. g. JIRA receives a lot of complaints because it is not well designed internally.
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@bbatsov These two assumptions — about the goal of an editor, and about the quality of LLM output — are just two facets of the misconceptions that lead some people to actively drown the world in slop.
No, the job of actually understanding will not go away. But a lot of people will get hurt on the way to understanding that.
I believe that it is our job not to casually spread or tolerate such misconceptions, but to try to mitigate the damage.
No, the job of actually understanding will not go away. But a lot of people will get hurt on the way to understanding that.
I believe that it is our job not to casually spread or tolerate such misconceptions, but to try to mitigate the damage.
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@bbatsov You write: »Cursor can scaffold an entire application in an afternoon« — but it can't. It can throw together random existing snippets that look like they might plausibly work, and iterate on them until it compiles and, if it is nothing innovative, might even resemble something you expected too.
Imagine a random PO send you some code with the note »hey, I just made this, can you put it into prod?« — aren't you shuddering? This is just automated script kiddies with even less props.
Imagine a random PO send you some code with the note »hey, I just made this, can you put it into prod?« — aren't you shuddering? This is just automated script kiddies with even less props.
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@bbatsov I'd mainly want to discuss on the basis of the chapter »Do you even need a “power tool” anymore?«.
You write »all of it is in service of making the human more efficient at the mechanical act of coding« — but that's not the point: it's to give the human a faster way to put their thoughts to canvas, thus reducing interruption of those thoughts, and to give them more time to /have/ thoughts.
Put that way, I don't see how LLMs help at all, and frankly, I actually do believe they don't.
You write »all of it is in service of making the human more efficient at the mechanical act of coding« — but that's not the point: it's to give the human a faster way to put their thoughts to canvas, thus reducing interruption of those thoughts, and to give them more time to /have/ thoughts.
Put that way, I don't see how LLMs help at all, and frankly, I actually do believe they don't.
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@edri
A “risk” is something that might not happen.
This is not a risk, it is certain.
Better headline probably: “How the Digital Omnibus damages GDPR and ePrivacy rights”
A “risk” is something that might not happen.
This is not a risk, it is certain.
Better headline probably: “How the Digital Omnibus damages GDPR and ePrivacy rights”
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@sailfishosnews @jolla
When will I finally get a linux phone that actually fits my pocket? Height max. 13.5 cm.
When will I finally get a linux phone that actually fits my pocket? Height max. 13.5 cm.
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@Ardubal@mastodon.xyz
There comes a time where you have to stop accepting things you can't change, and start changing things you can't accept.
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@cstross@wandering.shop @sumek@hachyderm.io @dgerard Yes, purely political reasons. We are suffering in Germany from a systematic anti-nuclear propaganda campaign even through our schoolbooks.
There are still parts that could be salvaged for a comparatively quick restart (compared to starting from scratch), but the people deciding these things currently are determined to make it harder every day.
It will be hilarious when they realize in 15 years that even Poland decarbonizes faster than we do.
There are still parts that could be salvaged for a comparatively quick restart (compared to starting from scratch), but the people deciding these things currently are determined to make it harder every day.
It will be hilarious when they realize in 15 years that even Poland decarbonizes faster than we do.
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