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I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make anymore. Let’s cut this thread honestly it’s long enough.

“I genocided your brothers and bombed your schools and seiged you but please don’t hit my military targets cause I put them in densely populated areas” Your humanitarian principle requires everyone in the world to basically allow themselves to be attacked by America, it’s European lapdogs and the zionist occupation. From a legal and military standpoint your logic is simply absurd.

Reading comprehension curse strikes again I have never once advocated for the deliberate targeting of civilians and have specified again and again that warfighting should be between militaries.

The implication here is: “You people are detached, soft, and incapable of understanding real war.” No the implication is that westerners love killing civilians so much that they forget that wars are fought between militaries. I’ll be more clear about this next time. That’s not an argument. That’s a moral superiority pose. You want an argument? It’s trivial to give one. All western countries have been involved in warmongering in west asia since before I was born. There is full justification for any group in west asia to launch attacks on western military assets. Even under international law (which western militaries refuse to follow), retaliating against military attacks is fully allowed. America and its zionist occupation of Palestine attacked Iran (military targets and civilians), and even inside its borders and capital city*. The Iranian state has every right to bomb any American military target, even if it were inside US border. *this isn’t the first time either. The Americans did this last year, and even in trump’s 1rst term minimizing the reality that modern warfare absolutely does kill civilians Sure, there are civilians casualties from war. So should America be allowed to bomb and genocide whoever they want with no one fighting back? Civilian harm is a central moral and legal issue in contemporary conflict. That’s not Western fragility. That’s international humanitarian law. Lmao western militaries do not give a single fuck about civilians or collateral damage or international law. You really want to present the butchers of gaza as some sort of hippies in 2026?

Are westerners only able to conceptualise the killing of civilians? Are they so far removed from having normal countries that they forget that wars are fought between armies?

Yeah it’s a good thing when fascist states get bombed. You’d be the kind to both sides WW2 if it was socially acceptable to go to bat for the nazis

It is not random bombing. It is targeted because fuck Germany.

The struggle against imperialism and neocolonism is class struggle. On one side is the international bourgeoise and national bourgeoises (of many countries), on the other side is the national bourgeoise (of some countries), the proletariat, peasantry and indigenous populations. (The class conflict is most complicated than that but I’m just making a point)

True. But class comes is not a binary.

The passengers are soldiers who signed up to go kill people. They aren’t innocent.

The DNC were mass murdering and war mongering and upgrading the surveillance state as hard as the republicans are. The only thing they’ve been somewhat different on is that the republicans are more willing to attack trans people. That’s just about it. On every other front the capitalists have been capitaling. Even on tariffs, Biden increased tariffs and continued trump’s trade wars. The bourgeois world-empire marches on regardless of who is king, for their king is a mere reflection in the mirror.