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Sometimes we do. Sometimes we’ll take a loss on the phone because we want you to stay paying the bill after your contract. Market segmentation and personalised offers are a big thing at the moment.
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Cool, you live in that world already. Most networks don’t lock phones anymore. Our first question to people who ask for phones to be unlocked is whether they actually tried the new SIM in it yet, as almost none of our phones are sold locked anymore.
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DT is far more than a network carrier, it’s one of the largest IT services companies in the world. On top of that their largest profits in the mobile sector are from the, eh, less regulated T-Mobile.
Their operating margin is around 12%, way down on last year.
companiesmarketcap.com/…/operating-margin/
A more straightforward telecom example might be Vodafone in the UK who are at -4% this year: providing services cost them money
companiesmarketcap.com/gbp/…/operating-margin/
Telefonica in Spain are at 1.7%
companiesmarketcap.com/…/operating-margin/
Orange in France are at 10%
companiesmarketcap.com/orange/operating-margin/
For comparison outside of the telecoms sector, Google is at 40%
companiesmarketcap.com/…/operating-margin/
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Assuming the cutout feature works by AI and requires you send your photo to their server, it makes a lot of sense that Apple don’t want you sending your nads to their server.
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I’m sorry the carriers you deal with are so shit but until mobile data transfer becomes a government utility (and let me tell you, there’s a reason telecoms are scrambling to diversify) they do have to make a profit. In most markets the margins are razor thin and new radio technologies (4G, 5G, 6G) are costing more and returning less.
So when poorly regulated markets let them merge into monopolies, or they cut costs by reducing human customer services, “based, I stole a phone from a shitty company” should hopefully be also followed up by you supporting legislation to make mobile data a government utility.
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I work for a telecom.
99% of the time this was because the cost of the phone is built into your plan. There was a serious risk (and still is) of fraud whereby the phone is fraudulently ordered to an address, the phone physically swiped, the customer never pays, and the telecom can’t recover the phone or its costs. More basically, it used to be pretty hard to get money from customers who just stopped paying. You could get a €2000 euro phone for €500, pay that up front, and walk to the local guy with a serial cable who unlocked your phone for €20.
Theres a lot more protections, technological and legal, that have slowed this now, but the profit is still high enough that jumping through hoops like embedding an ally in the contact centre or intercepting couriers is still worth it.
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Is “the vast majority of your users” your display name or something? I have those turned off in my client settings
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I swear to god if this is Schleiswig Holstein again I’m giving it back to Denmark
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Everything else is “a hack” in the sense that it is literally just the way to get Jellyfin working outside your network too.
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Remote access via their servers.
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