Telorand

I’m with you. I think there is some value in trying to reach the people on the data-harvesting platforms, but I would rather see that coupled with an incessant campaign to guide people into the Fediverse. At the end of every post, link to an article about how to do it. Do a monthly reminder about migrating and how & why the Fediverse is better. I genuinely appreciate the work EFF does, but I think that this move is long overdue, and they could be doing more with their platform.

It’s still in development, so sometimes yes, sometimes no. Expect that to change and improve, however.

>Good anecdote but this is just hegemonic propaganda. Social media has also revealed the reality behind the hegemonic narrative. That's what they're actually afraid of. It's not propaganda, it's a fact. The rise of conspiracy theories becoming mainstream, the rise of fascist groups that are *currently undermining* global peace and stability, the ability for long-debunked pseudoscience to be treated as equal with science: all of that is facilitated by social media giving an equal platform to people that do not deserve one, particularly the platforms run by capitalists. Social media has indeed done some good, but my argument was never that social media is wholly bad, just that it's a net negative. I agree that "they" are afraid of The People organizing and seeing through all the bullshit, but that's not something unique that social media is able to facilitate, and it's not something social media has been particularly effective at doing. People of the past were able to see through the bullshit without social media, and if we all lost the internet tomorrow, people would still manage to communicate and share ideas. We did it for decades through books, newspapers, speaking events, zines, etc. We don't need social media to progress, and I would argue that recent history seems to indicate the contrary. >It's not true. What about the people in charge of this platform? The bulk of the issues arise from capitalism and this type of censorship is designed to abolish its criticism. There are no people "in charge" of this platform. If you wanted to, you could spin up your own instance with the sole member being you. You could fork the code and start your own Lemmy v2.0. We are collectively responsible for the operation of this federation of services, and even here, you still find the tolerance of bad actors and the spread of rotten ideas. Has the Fediverse been a net positive? Maybe. But we are small fish compared to the fat cats that are Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Xitter, etc., and there's no dispute that their influence has reached far and the ideas they've allowed to fester for profit have been destructive, to say the least. Social media doesn't exist in a vacuum; it's within the context of a global society run by greed, and the fact that it sometimes does good doesn't outweigh the capitalists who weaponize it against us.

I mean, it has enabled every goober and bad actor with an opinion to essentially have a megaphone and build platforms and movements. I'd argue that's a net negative. Even the Fediverse isn't immune to propaganda and conspiracy theories. I think putting a warning on the tin is appropriate, especially for platforms run by billionaires whose explicit goal is to get people hooked and keep them feeding the machine by any means necessary. It's true that the bulk of the issue arises from the people in charge of the platforms, but nobody currently in power is going to do anything about the billionaire problem. This is at least a vague gesture acknowledging that a problem exists. Also, it's just a sign. When have warning signs stopped people from doing things that are unhealthy?

That’s not how evidence works. If the original person has evidence that the software doesn’t work, then we need to look at both sets of evidence and adjust our view accordingly. It could very well be that the software works 90% of the time, but there could exist some outlying examples where it doesn’t. And if they have those examples, I want to know about them.

Okay. Same. I’m not asking you to believe Glaze/Nightshade works on my word alone. All I said was that artists should try it.

Okay. I have that. Now what?

Because it’s hard(er than doing nothing) and takes changing habits.

On that note, if you’re an artist, make sure you take Nightshade or Glaze for a spin. Don’t need access to the LLM if they’re wantonly snarfing up poison.

It looks like silly fun, but as they say on their own page, they don’t recommend it as a daily driver, specifically because it was designed with humor in mind, not maintainability. Could be worth spinning up in a VM or giving away on an old laptop, though…