The military science of our age is addressing the logistical problem of how to eliminate unwanted civilians. Obviously this will not be sensitive to legal niceties. As Hegseth said, this is about lethality. How does one confront an adversary whose concept of his art is that it is all about lethality? How does one deal with mass-murderers at the helm?
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"The circulating image of the "new Rafah crossing" provokes me! Why is the Palestinian treated as if he were a "global threat"? As if he's a moving crisis that must be monitored, or a "security file"
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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Why are those who committed genocide making the rules?
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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RE: https://mastox.eu/@FranceskAlbs/115975017777554180
How people imagine that the ones committing the genocide should be the ones organizing the peace, is beyond me.
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Israel has no legal authority to bar humanitarian workers from Gaza and the rest of the oPt. The occupation is illegal and must end, completely and unconditionally (ICJ 2024). States must suspend ties until Israel complies with int'l law. That is the starting point for peace.
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@johntinker@hear-me.social Yes, but what is this? Public AI systems look smarter and more capable than they actually are. They sound confident, but there’s nothing inside that thinks, knows, or wants
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Yes. Knowing what it is not is as important as knowing what it is. The large language model is not those things. This is not a surprise to everyone, but it IS a surprise to ma
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@johntinker@hear-me.social I appreciate the direction you are taking in thinking about the chatbot as a kind of “language experience.” Since I have built up a fairly large research corpus on AI halluc
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Here is one where it really got abstract: https://johntinker.substack.com/p/mapping-quotient-vectors-on-five
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Here is a model where I give a "locus of agency" a fractal perspective that sees only the meso scale ontologically correctly, and perceives and communicates about other scales
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@johntinker@hear-me.social I read through your piece. A couple things stood out to me in a good way. First, I like that you gave the idea of the individual a clearer structure instead of leaving it va
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Here is an example of using the model to analyze a real situation. This uses a model of loci of agency, each with an internal and an external narrative, with symbols derived from meso scale, and the ontological reality free of our metaphorical understanding of it. It examines the tensions between internal and external narratives, and runs time evolution on the interactions between the centers of agency. I apply the genocide in Gaza to the model. There is a link at the top to the original prompt, so you can see how it works. https://johntinker.substack.com/p/analyzing-narratives-around-the-ethnic
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@johntinker@hear-me.social I appreciate the direction you are taking in thinking about the chatbot as a kind of “language experience.” Since I have built up a fairly large research corpus on AI halluc
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@johntinker@hear-me.social I read through your piece. A couple things stood out to me in a good way. First, I like that you gave the idea of the individual a clearer structure instead of leaving it va
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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@Revenant@hear-me.social A lot of my ideas seem pretty obvious, at least to me, and presumably to others, once I finally figure out what I am trying to say, The LLM is going to operate as a best guess, and will tend to mistake ones meaning in ones favor, I think, trying to make sense even of nonsense.
Regarding the part where you got a little lost, it is because I am fascinated by the appearance of fractal recurrences of invariant personality-like characteristics at different scales. We see national character and personal character in the same terms, essentially.
Not the specialist in pursuit of the hard facts of ontological reality, but the rest of us, who are watching the world, listening to the explanations, and trying to understand it.
These are the domains that I am interested in exploring, in the sense of uncovering the universe of normative language for the discussion. The LLM is very powerful at this.
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Yes. Knowing what it is not is as important as knowing what it is. The large language model is not those things. This is not a surprise to everyone, but it IS a surprise to ma
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Here is a model where I give a "locus of agency" a fractal perspective that sees only the meso scale ontologically correctly, and perceives and communicates about other scales primarily, perhaps only, through metaphors. This explains where I was headed with that: https://johntinker.substack.com/p/modeling-the-individual-and-its-point
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@johntinker@hear-me.social I appreciate the direction you are taking in thinking about the chatbot as a kind of “language experience.” Since I have built up a fairly large research corpus on AI halluc
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Yes, I would be very interested to see your token level language perturbation tools. Thank you.
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Thank you for your thoughtful and detailed response. We are in agreement about most of this.
In my model I would say that you are working with ontological reality. This is good, and as I model it, an extension of meso scale knowledge.
My focus is on the relationship between the individual and the society, and their co-emergence through evolution. I have been working with modes of understanding, and find that we are often interested in that seem to exist between systems, even though ontologically we know that the parallels are of limited range. My working method is to work with the fact that ideas in the corpus are expressed in two ways: either seeking ontological consistency, or seeking homotopies in metaphorical references.
I am working with the metaphorical references, conceived as system of scale invariant properties, ideals. Not ontologically connected to reality, but connected to perception.
I recognize the validity of your gentle explanation that perception is not reality, and that metaphors do not add up to reality. At the same time, I am hoping to use the fact of the original recourse to metaphor, and the fact that the LLM only deals with statistics, that the output of the LLM would essentially represent the best metaphorical view of what the reality is understood to be. I see the LLM as an educational tool for communicating what is already known.
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Well, there's this: https://johntinker.substack.com/p/ai-prompt-the-dual-narrative-fractal
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Yes. Knowing what it is not is as important as knowing what it is. The large language model is not those things. This is not a surprise to everyone, but it IS a surprise to many, perhaps to most. Here is the situation laid out as plainly as I was able, via a prompt to the DeepSeek chatbot. https://johntinker.substack.com/p/misunderstanding-as-a-commutator
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I am the engineer at KPIP-LP, a community radio station in Fayette, Missouri. In the wider world I am known as the lead plaintiff in the 1969 U.S. Supreme Court students rights decision, Tinker v. Des Moines https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v ._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District @ howardcountyprogressives @ jftf @ jftf # genocide # Palestine # studentSpring
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@Revenant@hear-me.social Well, there's this: https://johntinker.substack.com/p/ai-prompt-the-dual-narrative-fractal
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