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@GossiTheDog Well, well. The ideal "productivity booster" for any business-related activity using a Windows PC, which Microslop has been pushing desperately and obsessively onto every Windows user on the planet, in fact even onto hardware, demanding a new key on keyboards from laptop-manufacturing partners, now turns out to be "for entertainment purposes only." Well, well, well, you don't say... New Microslop motto to expect next ought to be therefore something like: "Entertainment, the new key to business productivity"

@liw I don't really think it was like that. Maybe way before that, when computers were still mostly analog, digital computers emerged together with prog languages, those made the older analog computers and their operators quite quickly obsolete. But after that there had been no strong claim by anything that would make programmers and developers obsolete (until now with AI, that is.) I'd say it was rather the opposite for long. Everyone was rather strongly encouraged to learn some coding skills, because that was supposed to be a necessity in most future jobs. Specially younger generations and educational programs leaned that way for long. I'd say from way before 2010, and till after covid, at least right up till the AI hype exploded couple of years ago with chatgpt passing some "high level knowledge" exams, formerly out of league for any computer programs.

@gabrielesvelto @adingbatponder Great! In that thread you also mention something else that is quite important: RAM will only deteriorate and get worse with age and usage. So even if this is the absolute worst time in history when one would need to look for new RAM, I will plan to re-run RAM tests on this PC some time soon to see how it's going.

@gabrielesvelto @adingbatponder At the end of that thread: " I'd also like to point out that we've got preliminary data on the topic, but I fully intend to write a proper article with a detailed analysis of the data. 17/17" Was that article published, or is it approaching publication? I'd be very interested.

@gabrielesvelto As a personal anecdote, I built a PC in 2017 with 16 GB of DDR4 RAM that I got from Amazon (Germany.) Had to return it after extensive testing with Passmark's free version of memtest86. Had failing bits. The replacement did pass the heavy testing. If there's one thing I wanted that PC to be was very stable and reliable. Few years later got a second 16 GB kit to expand the PC to 32 GB. Had to return that kit as well, it also had errors. The replacement again passed the extensive testing. This is still the PC I'm writing from now in fact. Manufacturers and their QA teams must be aware of their failure rates, but they likely do not care to save costs and make higher profits. They still sell kits with some failures, because not many users subject their PCs/RAM to the torture of these long RAM tests (4 full passes or more for sanity's sake takes hours.) And crashing here and there with normal usage is almost considered "normal" to some extent, unfortunately. From my experience, the "RAM Test" offered by Windows was an absolute joke. It never found anything on the kits that Memtest86 would find failures on in about 1 of any 2 runs. I remember watching a Youtuber testing a gaming build he had just put together, and he used prime95 to test it for some minutes only. The computer did not crash and according to him that was fine enough for a gaming PC. I happen to disagree. In particular because in that run of his, even if Prime95 did not crash, it showed calculation error warnings. That could have happened because of RAM issues. In his view, just for gaming it was fine enough that Prime95 would not crash quickly, much better even if it endures some minutes. I disagree. Any calculation error warning from Prime95 is quite a hardware stability/reliability red flag, just as any finding from memtest86. It is a failure of the industry that ECC RAM is still not standard at least for PCs, laptops, and cellphones. Maybe it should be standard for all consumer electronics in fact.

@absolucy This reminds me one time someone asked me how I knew something, and I could not quickly pinpoint mentally where I had actually learned about it, so I could only reply: "just reading"