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In case people wanted a 2nd chance to object to a compulsory user account age recording + reporting law (the only people who objected in #California that I have found being only interested in 'gratis'
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Another 2nd chance to tell legislators that the mechanisms that we have inherited from #Unix, and used in loads of #FreeSoftware operating systems from #NetBSD to #Tribblix, do not have date of birth/age fields for user accounts, is #Illinois, where HB5511 is the very same text as #California's, too.
https://my.ilga.gov/Legislation/BillStatus?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=5511&GAID=18&LegID=167486
It really does seem at this point that this is model legislation.
Sponsors in Illionois are Jennifer Gong-Gershowitz, Margaret Croke, Janet Yang, Rohr, Kimberly Du Buclet, Natalie A. Manley, Angelica Guerrero-Cuellar, Rick Ryan, Michelle Mussman, Martha Deuter and Tracy Katz Muhl.
The bill is in the judiciary–civil committee as of yesterday.
It was introduced last month, 1 day after it was introduced in Colorado. I wonder in what other states it has just turned up.
A lobby organization handing pre-drafted bills to multiple sets of legislators is not unknown.
@nileane@nileane.fr @RunxiYu@social.treehouse.systems
#CaliforniaLaw #USLaw #IllinoisLaw #FreeSoftware #AgeVerification
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I'm inclined to believe that it is indeed the people who don't understand technology (specifically: they think that everything works like their smart 'phone or Microsoft Windows 11 PC do) making policy; or that they did understand the technology and were just crap at drafting legislation such that it could distinguish the Microsoft Store, Google Play, the Apple App Store, et al. from #Ubuntu's package repository and #OpenBSD's ports tree.
And that distinguishing criterion is not #FreeSoftware. Given the aims, the #California legislators would want #FDroid to be required to hand over #AgeVerification data to free-software apps that F-Droid allows, that themselves want to impose age restrictions (on, say, showing certain content to minors) via the route of getting the account holder's age (bracket) information from the operating system via a 'signal' from the 'store'.
https://monitor.f-droid.org/anti-features
#FreeBSD #NetBSD #Debian #CaliforniaLaw #USLaw
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OpenWatcom vi is source available.
https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/116052015020764901
Ritter's Heirloom #vi is in #FreeBSD ports today, coming from the same place that it has for a long time.
https://freshports.org/editors/2bsd-vi/
It was dropped from #ArchLinux because it did not compile and hadn't changed in 20 years. Ironically, this is because the (GNU) C language had changed, and it has to nowadays be compiled forcing an older GNU C language version.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2285124#p2285124
Several people have independently discovered the Makefile patch that gets it to build on #Debian and the like.
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=629775
https://gist.github.com/cwfoo/01abac5c39f398b7e7b16a2b87aa518b
#elvis, the precursor to #nvi, is packaged for both #NetBSD/#pkgsrc and #OpenBSD.
https://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/editors/elvis/index.html
https://github.com/openbsd/ports/tree/master/editors/elvis
#retrocomputing #ComputerHistory #Watcom #OpenWatcom
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On #Illumos, Jov vi is in /usr/src/cmd/vi:
https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/tree/master/usr/src/cmd/vi
On #OpenBSD, Bostic #nvi is in /usr/src/usr.bin/vi/vi; #NetBSD having it in /usr/src/external/bsd/nvi; and #FreeBSD in /usr/src/contrib/nvi:
https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/tree/main/contrib/nvi
FreeBSD has an nvi2 in ports:
https://freshports.org/editors/nvi2/
OpenBSD has elvis in ports:
https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/master/editors/elvis/pkg/DESCR
Ritter's Heirloom vi is on SourceForge:
https://ex-vi.sourceforge.net
STEVIE was posted to comp.sources.unix in 1988:
https://sources.vsta.org/comp.sources.unix/volume15/stevie/
Unfortunately, Sven Guckes's vi Clones WWW site was never completed with some of this, notably lacking Heirloom vi, for example.
https://guckes.net/vi/clones.html
But it does mention oft-overlooked commercial clones such as Watcom's vi, a from-scratch implementation started in 1983 that is also now source-available:
https://github.com/open-watcom/owp4v1copy/tree/master/bld/vi
#vi #retrocomputing #ComputerHistory #STEVIE #elvis #VIM #NeoVIM #Watcom #OpenWatcom
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People waxing lyrical about using 'original vi', both nowadays in 2026 and back in 2006, haven't a clue what that is. There's only one family of operating systems where 'vi' will actually run the orig
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